Yesterday Droog posted this: Top 10 Rated QB’s in Madden NFL 13
Here is the official list:
10. Michael Vick, Philadelphia Eagles: 89 overall
9. Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys: 90 overall
8. Matthew Stafford, Detroit Lions: 91 overall
7. Philip Rivers, San Diego Chargers: 92 overall
6. Peyton Manning, Denver Broncos: 93 overall
5. Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers: 95 overall
4. Eli Manning, New York Giants: 97 overall
3. Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints: 98 overall
2. Tom Brady, New England Patriots: 98 overall
1. Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers: 99 overall
Here is my response:
NBA 2K is better than any game you mentioned…except Madden. Madden has always been my favorite video game. I actually own every single Madden that has ever existed (got pics to prove it). It’s the only game I consistently bet money on. I am the best Madden player literally in NYC, and no member of the Super Mookin’ Fiends could ever beat me. Droog after we play you will never question me again. I’m one of those fiends that sets up packages and audibles and all that shit for hours.
That being said, besides being the best Madden player in the world, I am also one of the most knowledgeable critics. Few comments of yours I want to respond to:
1. Top 10 QBs
Holy shit I’m so angry by this list I can’t even explain myself. I could go on and on all night with this. Instead I’ll just give you the REAL list. I’d be happy to answer any questions regarding why I have it this way:
Wave Bandana’s Madden 2013 Top 10 QBs
- Michael Vick; 99 Overall
- Eli Manning; 99 Overall
- Cam Newton 97 Overall
- Drew Brees; 96 Overall
- Aaron Rodgers; 92 Overall
- Ben Roethlisberger; 90 Overall
- Tony Romo; 88 Overall
- Philip Rivers; 85 Overall
- Matt Stafford; 83 Overall
- RGIII; 81 Overall
Then the 2 odd-men out because of the addition of Cam Newton and RGIII (Matt Schuab would be #11)
Tom Brady; 77 Overall
Peyton Manning; 69 Overall
2. Madden 12
I was actually happy with Madden 12. Maybe that’s because Madden 2011 was the worst sports video game I ever played since the Helsinki episode of Madden 2006 (QB Vision)…and we all know how that turned out.
In Madden 2011 it was literally impossible to win if you weren’t putting up 80 points. Strategically it made more sense to go for it on 4th and 30 in your own end-zone in the first 60 seconds of the game than it did to punt it. If you went just one possession without scoring, game over. There was no way around it. One defensive stop or turnover ended the game, that’s how absurdly easy it was to score. The offense vs defense in Madden 2011 was the most outrageous and frustrating experience I ever had (worst than trying to get all 100 hidden packages in GTA).
I hated Madden 2011 so much I almost didn’t make my annual midnight trip to pick up 2012 (almost). But I was surprisingly happy with 2012 (aside from the commentary). I loved the gang tackle animations. I felt overall it was the first time in a few years there was a complete animations overhaul. You could throw the deep ball again. Remember when they legitimately made it impossible to catch the deep ball? Obviously that came from all the complaints of people throwing streaks to Randy Moss for a decade. I understood that, but the deep ball gets caught a few times in every real NFL game. You have to find the right balance.
I also thought the offense vs. defense was a huge improvement. By no means would I call it acceptable, but a step in the right direction. They really cut down on scrambling and forced the players to be much more realistic in the pocket. That was maybe my 2nd biggest complaint of all time was how unrealistic the scrambling and pocket presence was. Long gone are the days now where Vick ends up with 300+ yards in 5 min quarters. If you had a QB that really can’t move it made a huge difference.
What Madden 2013 needs to do is the same shit I’ve been screaming for years. Make the defense and offense completely even. Just as fun an unrealistic as the offense is, the defense should be the same. That means every time the D has a chance to make a pick, it should. No more of that bouncing off the hands shit. Any time some one does some dumb shit like scramble around and throw it cross field should be a pick. Pretty much any time it’s not a practical play should be a pick. If that means there are 10-15 interceptions a game, so be it. Not only would that FORCE players to play smart and and consequently realistic, but it would make the defense just as fun as offense. I never understood why they were okay with having outrageous offensive stats and pretty realistic defensive stats. Make both sides equally fun and outrageous. I’m telling you it would make Madden the most fun game out.
3. Best Madden ever / Madden the Monopoly
Madden 2005 was by far the best Madden game in Madden history. I guess we agree somewhat on that. Not only did it introduce the hit stick making defense fun for the first time ever, but it was jam packed with content. Most of the game play mods and features of the Franchise mode that are still popular today were created with 2005. It was one of the bigger graphic and animations jump in the history of Madden. Madden 2005 (Ray Lewis) is head and shoulders the best game out there.
No shot was ESPN 2K5 better. That’s why that shit costs $20 cause it was a piece of shit. The only think memorable was that spot TV ad they ran. You are not alone Droog. The general sentiment in the gaming world is that ESPN 2k5 was the best football simulation ever created. They tried to make you wear a helmet when you played. That 1st person shit was miserable. I said the same thing then I’ll say now having years to reflect. Fuck you.
The only football games that could compare to Madden are the original NFL Blitz and the NFL 2K series FOR DREAMCAST. Blitz and Dreamcast literally changed my fucking life. I’ve never played a more fun sports game than Blitz still to this day. The Dreamcast 2K series paved the way for everything we have now. That shit changed the way I think about gaming experiences forever.
Originally I felt the same way you did about the Madden monopoly. I can’t understand how that was legal and Microsoft got dismantled for similar tactics Apple uses now. Without question it hurts progression. I don’t think EA is “lazy” because the gaming industry is one of the hardest industries to profit in. I don’t think they slack off. I just think because it’s a one sided vision it doesn’t allow progression. 2K and Madden both stole from each other over the years. One invented something cool, the other made it better next year. That is lost I will admit. But I wouldn’t contribute the lack of new shit just to the monopoly. EA has less than a year to make a game. How much different can you get? Groundbreaking games like Halo, Call of Duty (they use 2 different developers), GTA all have YEARS of developing. Madden gets only a few months. It’s a tough challenge. Also from reading EA interviews, they kinda hit a wall. There is only so much you can do in a short amount of time with a certain budget from a technology standpoint. The next major shift will be with new consoles.
So why do I support the monopoly?
Even though I just admitted it does hurt progression, the only thing I hate more than a lack of progression is idiots bitching about how they “woulda beat me if we played ESPn 2K”. The most annoying thing when I crush someone in a sports game is the victim complaing that they would beat me in the version of the game they play. This constantly happened with Madden vs. 2K and NBA Live vs. NBA 2K. I hate that fucking excuse so god damn much I’d rather we all play the same shitty game together. At least we know who the real champion is.